MGU 32 | The Inner Child


Growing old often gets the best of us. With all the responsibilities and expectations that weigh us down, it can be difficult and sometimes, even a luxury, to find things that excite and bring us joy. In this episode, you need not look further for what invigorates your body. Jason Wrobel and Whitney Lauritsen snap us out for a bit from our busy heads and transport us back to nostalgia and our inner child. They talk about the music, places, and the special things they have that evoke a specific feeling or memory, comforting them against the hustle and bustle. Reminding you too of your own, Jason and Whitney bring out the idea of excavating your childhood to see the passions, touchstones of joy, or forgotten dreams that you can bring into the present moment of adulthood. Revel in child-like wonder and find solace in the things that are already within you, even when life gets on the way.

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Nostalgia And The Inner Child: Touchstones Of Joy In Adulthood

I pulled up here to Wellevatr headquarters/podcast recording/jackfruit preparation central. Was that my stomach or was that Evie? I thought it was my stomach because my stomach growled at the exact moment that she held the door. We’re in a closed room at the compound and there’s a Jack Russell Terrier on the other side of the door.

You need to be more specific about where we are exactly.

We are in a closet at Whitney’s house. Her head is in between a pair of jeans and a vegan-like Sherpa parka thing. A vegan shearling coat, that’s what it’s called. That is close enough. I come over and we get in the car. We’re on our way to a meeting in Hollywood and she’s like, “I’ve got to play with this song. It’s going to sound good in the car.” I was like, “What song is it?”

Let’s get specific. Let’s give them all the details so they can visualize this situation. I got the Tesla Model 3, which was a dream of mine for a long time. A reminder that dreams come true. You got to go after what you want and this car has brought me joy. Sometimes, I step back and it feels weird to have this much joy over a car, although I know I’m not alone. Jason’s a big car guy. I’m talking to the audience, I suppose, but looking at Jason, he’s like, “What are you talking about? It makes sense.” I think it’s because it’s a material object that sometimes I feel silly and it’s not an inexpensive car. The car payments are quite high and the highest I’ve ever paid for a car. I feel like we could do a whole episode on what that has brought about for me. One of the best parts about having a car of this caliber is that it has an incredible sound system. Is it me or is that sound system good?

It is crazy good. It is like a concert surround sound.

Hearing you say that feels grateful.

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That will be insane already because the Tesla Model S, the sound system is unbelievable. The attention to detail and engineering is outstanding from an audio perspective.

It’s possible someone’s sitting there nodding their head and knows exactly what we’re talking about. That’s cool. To give a little backstory before Jason gets into his point, I felt like I started to value the sound system on a whole new level. I don’t know why it took me several months to get to this point, but I played the song Black Hole Sun, which has a lot of nostalgia for me. I haven’t listened to it for long. It’s not a song that I would randomly play, but that’s what happened. It was like the universe brought it into my head. I put it on and I was blown away. Leading up to Jason’s story here is that I was in this mindset of feeling in awe of the way music sounded in my car. I wanted to bring Jason into the experience.

I sit down in the vegan leather seat. It’s comfortable. I realize tangential and we’ll bring it back to the original point. Tangentially, how important comfortable seats are in a car and I am finally getting that. I never cared. I was like, “That car is dope. I don’t care how the seats feel.” I care how the seats feel, but that’s a different story.

Especially because one of the big reasons I got Model 3 is I wanted an electric car with long-range and it has one of the longest ranges. What else would beat it out? Other Teslas?

One of the Teslas, the Model S, has a long-range that gets 335 miles per charge.

That’s 10 miles more. I got the long-range battery and it goes 325. I remember when I was seriously researching and considering cars, the only one that came close to it was the Chevy Bolt.

MGU 32 | The Inner Child

The Inner Child: Excavate your childhood to see if there are any passions, touchstones of joy, or forgotten dreams that you can bring into the present moment of your adulthood.


That gets about 268 or 260. Our friend has one. She says it’s 260-ish.

Coming back to the seat point, in addition to wanting great sound in the car, I have this massive love for road trips. I love driving in the car. You need to have comfortable seats. Jason and I are planning a road trip related to music. I feel that music is the big theme of this, but it’s the secondary theme of this.

I sit down in the comfy seat and she’s like, “I’ve got to play this.” I was like, “Cool.” I have no idea what she’s going to play me. She plays the song, Plush by Stone Temple Pilots, which I have not listened to for long. It’s a song that I’ve covered with our dear friend Jeff Skeirik, who’s shot thousands of photos and videos for us over the years. Jeff was my videographer for years on my YouTube channel. Shout out to him, it’s He is an amazing guy and totally creative. He is a Bostonian. He’s a good dude.

It reminds me, this is sounding vaguely familiar. Did you guys record the session?

I have the video.

I feel like I might’ve seen that.

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I have this song Plush by Stone Temple Pilots. Jeff is playing guitar and I’m singing.

Will you sing a little bit of it? Honestly, it came on randomly in Tesla. I was trying to play Black Hole Sun again. One of the features of the Tesla is a radio program called Slacker. It won’t let you play songs on-demand necessarily. Sometimes you’ll request a song and it’ll be like, “I’m going to play this song that’s related instead.” That’s why I heard Plush and another song I hadn’t listened to for a long time. It blew me away from the way it sounded and the way I felt from it. Will you sing a little bit of it?

It goes, “And I feel that time’s a wasted go. So where you going to tomorrow? And I see, that these are the eyes of disarray. Would you even care? And I feel it. And she feels it. Where you going to tomorrow? Where you going with the mask I found? And I feel, and I feel when the dogs begin to smell her. Will she smell alone?”

I wonder how many people are going to put that song on after they hear this episode. Even if you’re not a major fan of Stone Temple Pilots, I feel like that’s one of those songs that most people can hit you, especially when you listen to it on a great speaker.

If that was an era of your life, childhood, and early teenage years. Whitney and I were different ages, but that early ‘90s period was filled with much great music. If we’re going to talk about our inner child and nostalgia, that’s the overarching topic of this episode. To listen to something that invigorates your body with specific energy and a feeling, it almost transports you back to that time. Sometimes, when I haven’t listened to a song in years, like Plush, I remember being in high school and that whole grunge era of Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Mudhoney and Alice in Chains. The early ‘90s had Red Hot Chili Peppers, Ice Cube, NWA, and Soundgarden, that era of music, the list is insane. When I listen to that stuff, it reminds me of why I started to fall in love with music in the first place. Why I wanted to sing and play music. It’s a good thing to connect with the inner child who lights you up with joy. Music is one of those things that it instantly excites and brings out the inner child and takes us back to those moments. It has the ability to transport us.

It is similar to the smell. When you smell something, it evokes a specific feeling or memory. You can think of something and you remember exactly how it smells and it’s distinct.

MGU 32 | The Inner Child

The Inner Child: The joy of self-expression is something that we need to make a point, to connect with that inner child that wants to express itself and wants to create.


Also, how you felt. It’s not necessarily about the song or the smell. It gives you a visceral sensorial experience in your body, feeling recall. It’s interesting the power of that.

It’s also soothing. That’s another thing that we want to tie into this episode is that Jason knows this. I was having a tough emotional day. I didn’t know how to get out of the funk. I was talking to Jason and I was on my way to yoga. I didn’t feel great. Luckily, the yoga class helped a lot. Moving your body is a great way to get out of an emotional funk or doing something that challenges you and distracts you. It’s helpful to get you out of your head and into your body. I also found that aromatherapy was huge for me. I lit a brand-new candle that I had received as a gift and it was comforting.

I ended up listening to all this music in my car and I felt rejuvenated. It pulled me out of that. There are two parts to it. I recognize that the candle that I received was this forest scented candle. It has a strong, potent smell of various trees that you would smell in the forest. I grew up next to conservation lands. I spent a ton of time in the woods in the forest growing up. I was surrounded by these trees. That smell for me is super comforting because it does remind me of my childhood. It reminds me of the peace I felt walking around in the woods or the adventures that I went on and the self-exploration.

When I was younger, I didn’t even realize I was doing this. I was meditating without knowing what meditation was. After school, whenever I was having a tough day at school, I would go and walk around in the woods for hours by myself. It was completely insane and it’s funny. I don’t think about it that much, but I spent a significant portion of my teenage years in the woods and that was my go-to place. That also helps me understand, when I moved to Los Angeles, there’s the joke for anyone that’s lived in LA, the Westside versus the Eastside. Jason and I had gone through different stages. Moving from Massachusetts, which is on the opposite side of the country to LA, a lot of the times you think like, “I want to live near the beach.” If you go to these areas, Santa Monica and Venice, they have this vibe to them that is distinct. If you spend enough time there and you align with that energy there, it’s hard to leave.

Jason and I separately had lived in different parts of the Westside and there were times in our lives where we could never have imagined moving. It tied back into my point here, I was trying to find an apartment years ago and I couldn’t find anything within my budget or anything that fits for me on the Westside. I ended up having to go to the Eastside. I thought it was going to be temporary, but the biggest joy that I felt, and probably one of the big reasons that I’ve stayed on the Eastside and live in the Hollywood area in the Hills is that I’m surrounded by trails to walk on. Anytime I want, I can immediately get on a walking trail and be surrounded by trees again as opposed to the ocean. We come back to this idea of this inner child or the nostalgia that we experienced and the comfort that brings to us. A lot of the things that we feel distraught to this pole too are based on things that we loved or felt comforting to us when we were growing up. It’s important to tune into that and to be aware of where these poles are.

It’s interesting you talk about these childhood triggers. These experiences provide us comfort and joy. Music for me was always one thing as a child that I remember playing records. Vinyl has a massive resurgence. Everybody I know that is in a band presses vinyl records, it’s a thing. Brandon, who owns the salon we go to, Liberated Salon, he’s in two bands and they have vinyl records. He’s in two punk bands.

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We should tell them about Liberated Salon. It’s a special place. We can give a deeper shout out.

The Liberated Salon is in the Atwater Village neighborhood of Los Angeles. If you are in LA or find yourself in LA, it is a fully vegan, eco-friendly salon with the sweetest people. We’ve been going there for long. I was talking to Brandon, it’s like, “You’re seven with him.”

He’s the owner. I went first to one of the stylists in a different salon. I was looking for a natural hair care experience, so I went in there to give it a shot. I enjoyed my stylist, Chelsea. Chelsea’s chair was next to Brandon’s and I suggested that Jason go try it out. He vibed with Brandon. Brandon ended up opening up his own salon, bringing Chelsea along a few months ago. Jason and I were about to go on a business trip together and I casually mentioned, “I’m getting my haircut.” He said, “Me too.” I said, “I’m getting mine at 2:00 PM.” It was coincidentally, Jason was too. We didn’t plan it, but we ended up. That was delightful. Brandon’s in two bands and he presses records,

He presses vinyl records. Going back to childhood, growing up in Detroit, it was much soul music, R&B, Motown and classic rock. Whenever I hear that stuff, the teenage stuff is one thing, but if we want to talk about roots, deep childhood, my youth. I think about Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Motown, Smokey Robinson, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, The Temptations, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, Al Green, and all that. That’s still my favorite music. People like, “What kind of music do you like to sing or listen to? What kind of band would you want to be in?” I’ve been in nine bands, but I want to form a new one. “That’s my stuff. Classic rock, Soul, R&B, and Motown, that’s in my heart. When I play that stuff, it brings me.”

Whether I sing it, create it or I listen to it, it has a vibration that brings out my inner child. I always say that if I’m in a bad mood or I’m in a funk, this is for real, all I’ve got to do is put on a Stevie Wonder record and my state changes instantly. I have found that I cannot be sad, angry, and depressed. There’s something about the vibration, and I’m using Stevie as one example. I’ll put on a Stevie record and there’s much love, heart, and joyfulness in his music. Even the social commentary, it’s a state change. It immediately changes my state, but to bring it back to the joyfulness of childhood. We released a blog post on the Wellevatr website. You can check it out at about this idea of excavating our childhood to see if there are any passions or touchstones of joy or long-forgotten dreams that we can bring into the present moment of our adulthood. These are things that might still be relevant, things that might still light us up that we forgot about for so long.

Music is one of those things that you can immediately put on something that you grew up with and it changes your whole state of consciousness. It’s incredible. The candle you got hearkening back to your meditative travels in the forest as a child. I have these cassette tapes that I recorded as a kid and I’ve labeled them. It’s from the early ‘80s. I must have been 3 to 5 years old. There are several of these cassette tapes and these contain me making impressions, creating characters. I hosted a variety show where I had dinosaurs and my mom played a character called The Great Cook. I was hosting these variety shows and I was making up jokes. I was singing weird Neil Diamond songs like, “Turn on your hot lights,” and I was making fun. I would still make fun of a lot of music like that.

MGU 32 | The Inner Child

The Inner Child: When you’re trying to figure out how you can make money, it always comes down to how you can serve the world.


I revisit those tapes every few years because I like to remind myself that I don’t think I was intentionally doing this as a child, but I loved bringing joy to people. If I could make someone laugh, light them up, give them a giggle or see someone smile and I wasn’t attached to the outcome. I was creating for the sake of creating literally whatever came through my head. I put on these cassettes and I look back. It reminds me of the courageousness of childhood to create for the sake of creation, not because I cared about what anyone else thought. If you listen to these tapes, if we ever played these on the show, you can hear that I do not care about what anyone else was thinking. I was a nut. I was crazy.

Still, I am but listening back to those, Whitney, it reminds me that I can give myself that permission to be creative because something wants to come through me. It’s not because I want it to make money, not because I want to elicit an effect and response from people, but the joy of being creative. The joy of self-expression is something that we need to make a point, to connect with that inner child that wants to express itself and wants to create. As adults, we get serious like, “I want to be creative, but it’s got to make me money.” This has got a result in something or we get to the point where we get a little bit strategic and manipulative sometimes with what we’re creating in the world. To remember that as kids, we didn’t care about any of that stuff.

A lot of adults don’t even feel like they’re creative and that’s always interesting when you can think back. Creativity is a huge part of our childhood.

Adults are not always in touch with their creative sides. Some people think they’re not creative, but everybody’s creative. You created a career. You created a family. You’ve created a home for yourself. There are things that you’re creating all of the time. This idea of, “If I’m not an artist or an author or a musician or a painter, I’m not creative,” that’s a misnomer. That is a shortsighted viewpoint in the sense that we are all empowered to be creative in life.

Even to enjoy creativity. That’s one of the reasons that music speaks to us much. We don’t have to feel creative in what we’re doing, but we can feel creative in the way that we appreciate other people’s creativity. This is one of the reasons people love going to museums, looking at art, appreciating things. This is also one of the reasons that shows based on entertainment are so popular like American Idol and The Voice, all these competition shows like watching other talented or creative people succeed and reach their dreams. It’s something that we’re innately drawn to. Don’t you think?

Absolutely, I think there’s a weird dichotomy in our culture. I’m going to use the United States as an example because many European nations are not like this. We simultaneously celebrate people, artists who have reached the pinnacle of their industry, but then what’s the first thing to get cut from school funding? The arts. We have this schizophrenic weird dichotomous relationship with art in the United States where we’re like, “You’ve made a lot of money and you are successful. We buy your records and we go to your concerts,” but the music programs are getting cut at your kid’s school. There’s a misalignment with our regard toward art and artistic careers and how people go about it.

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Maybe that explains why some people are afraid to pursue creativity professionally. If you have the dream of being an artist, but you’re told in school and/or by your parents that you can’t make money or it’s not a serious career or it’s not as important as science, math, history, and all these other things that we’re told to study instead of that. I’ve never thought about that before. If you’re getting all these messages that being an artist is not as important, not as valuable or it’s something to do in your spare time as a hobby, but it’s not something that you can put all your focus on. Remember, as kids, a lot of school systems are set up to train us so that we know what it’s like to work.

When you look at our schedules as children, we’re getting up at the crack of dawn and going to school for the entire day, following the rules, doing tests and working hard. It’s conditioning to get us to be prepared for going into the workforce and having this average 9:00 to 5:00 job. I’ve always been a creative type. I thrive in creative environments. I thrive in positive feedback. I get incredibly frustrated and unhappy when I feel like I have to follow the rules for a rule’s sake or I have to take a standard test or something like that. I’ve never had performed well with that. Whenever I look back on what I was doing in school and where I was thriving as a student, it was through creativity.

I want to make one comment about the parents or the adults in our childhood that might’ve harped on us about that’s not a realistic option as a career. How are you going to make money or be realistic? Meanwhile, they’re listening to Marvin Gaye, a Benny Goodman record or Hank Williams. I’m like, “What if old big band guy, Benny Goodman, decided to be an accountant? What if Hank Williams decided to be a janitor? What if Marvin Gaye decided he never wanted to sing because Marvin Gaye was also?” Nat King Cole is like, “I’m not going to be a singer.” Jeff Buckley is like, “I’m not going to be a singer.” What if these people had chosen that? We would have never got the gift of their beautiful art, their beautiful voices, and their beautiful vision.

The same thing is true with movies and television. All of this entertainment is a huge part of our lives. That is a great point. We’re getting conflicting messages. Our parents are saying, “Let’s all go to the movies together. Let’s listen to this music or this concert. Let’s go to the museum and see this artwork.” Especially with museums, which I don’t think a lot of kids love, you’re dragged to these museums and your parents or teachers are telling you how important it is, but then they’re telling you that it’s not important for you to be practicing that in school.

There are two things at work there. In parent speak, when they have told us, “That’s not realistic. You’ll never make money at that.” Part of it is their conditioning. Sometimes they were convinced out of doing what they wanted. I think that at the core, even when parents or our elders say those things, there’s a certain protective mechanism. They don’t want us to suffer. To be honest, choosing a life as an artist and my primary focus has been food and music. You’re not going to avoid the suffering. It’s not like choosing the life of an accountant or a lawyer or a doctor is going to protect you from suffering. We should choose something more responsible. What does that mean? I’m going to suffer at a desk or I’m going to suffer choosing a profession in my heart I didn’t want to please other people. I can choose the suffering of not knowing where the next paycheck might come from, but I’m creating music, food, books and things that are connected to my heart. People are trying to protect us from pain. People are trying to protect us from suffering, but part of the nature of our existence is you’re going to suffer sometimes.

Even being a doctor, the amount of work and time it takes to become a doctor and the sacrifice you make. One of my best friend’s mothers was working her way to her professional medical career when we were growing up. It was a huge sacrifice for the family because the mother was never around. She was always on call. She was always out studying or practicing. It was a huge stress on the family and probably still is now except the kids are grown up, so it’s a lot easier. You think about people that have these grueling jobs where they’re spending more than 40 hours a week. They barely get to see their kids or get to see their romantic partners or their family members. It’s funny when you start to break it down.

As we go back to the original discussion, it’s odd that we will tell people that that’s not important, but when we as individuals think about the impact that any form of entertainment and art has had in our lives, it’s crucial. Those roles are huge. When you’re trying to figure out how you can make money, it always comes down to how you can serve the world. What would we even be if we didn’t have great music and a diversity of music? It’s not like we only need a few artists. We are going to listen to The Beatles or any of these huge bands for the rest of our lives over and over again. We want to discover new people. We want to hear new things. We want that variety.

We need to have new people coming up all the time and they’re all different types of artists. There are types of artists that feel commercial and their music sounds like it didn’t have a lot of heart in it. There is music that comes out and all you can feel in the heart. They may never become this household name, but when you listen to their music, you are transformed. It is the same thing with movies. You have the big blockbuster movies that are fun and exciting. You have the artsy films where maybe not a ton of people know about them, but when you watch them, you are put in this altered state. It’s helping you in such a deep way. The creativity was also a huge part of my life.

I started to be interested in performing. Jason and I have this in common. I was never into comedy, making people laugh, but I had so much joy getting on a stage or getting in front of the camera or doing a dance routine. Those were all big for me growing up. Yet, I didn’t know how I could do any of them professionally. It took me a long time to figure it out. One of the things that I’m most fortunate to have in my life is my parents were incredibly supportive. Even though they didn’t know how to help me become an actress when I wanted to do that, I don’t ever think they ever took my dance career seriously, but when I got into filmmaking for some reason, they went with it. They supported me through going to film school and they’ve never once questioned it.

They’ve had moments where they’ve raised concern, but I was lucky and not everybody has that. A lot of people have parents that are constantly in their ear about how you could have that as a passion. You can have that as a hobby, but you need to be doing something else to make money. When it comes to those situations, it takes a lot of deep evaluation within your life of how important are those things for you? If you want to explore them, can you merge parts of your career? Can you take your creativity and put it into whatever other work that you’re doing that doesn’t feel as creative? Will you be fulfilled doing it as a hobby, as something that you do on the side or when you get home? Is it in you where you need to do this full-time and nothing else matters?

It’s almost as if you would sacrifice anything to do it. It doesn’t matter if you’re making money. It doesn’t matter if you don’t have any relationships that are super strong or you only get to see your friends or loved ones and family every once in a while. Part of our drive to record this episode was that we wanted you to dig deep and start by looking to see how you feel when you listen to a musical that’s disgusting or dancing or when you look at artwork or watch movies. What does it evoke in you? Maybe it won’t even evoke the urge to be creative as we’ve been discussing. Maybe it brings up something or reminds you of something else and suddenly, you’re more connected to your roots. That’s ultimately one of the most important pieces of advice that we can give you is to get in tune with what you want and clear away any of the emotional clutter that’s preventing you from being that in touch with yourself.

This takes a lot of work sometimes because there can be years or decades of conditioning and belief systems about yourself, about your worth, about your creativity or your lack thereof that we believed. As we’ve gone on from parents, from our religion, from culture, from whatever it is. This is such an important thing. Some people be like, “It sounds like a midlife crisis.” That’s too pedantic or too simple. It’s not a midlife crisis. We’re not suggesting that you have a complete emotional breakdown.

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It’s interesting when you think about a midlife crisis. It probably happens because you’re at this point where you feel like you have less time to live than more.

I think not just the time factor, but perhaps that we have denied ourselves some things that we have truly wanted to do, experience or have and have not allowed ourselves for whatever reason. That’s a huge part of it. It’s the denial or resistance of things we want.

I think it happens at that, “Midlife point.” We never know when we’re midway through our lives, but whatever that general timeframe that is causing people to step back and say, “I haven’t been doing what I want or experiencing what I want in life. I haven’t bought the things that I wanted to buy. What have I been doing?” It sounds cliché and humorous, but it’s an amazing thing when somebody goes through that point where they recognize that they want something different or they want more. They’re allowing themselves to have it. That’s truly incredible.

Regardless of what age you’re at or what stage of life you’re at, this examination is important to check in with and ask yourself, “Are there any things that have brought you deep joy that you’ve completely abandoned or completely forgot about? Are there any touchstones you can create in your life?” Books, art, movies, music, anything that you can harken back to that. Maybe you’ve let go of, that you haven’t allowed yourself to enjoy, and that could bring joy or creative sparker inspiration to your existence. It’s having the courage to look at your life and ask, “Am I living the way I want to?”

How can you give yourself permission to have it? One of the reasons that we got excited about music is that feeling. It’s a natural high. When you hear something, you see something, you experience something that reminds you of a great part in your life. It’s getting me thinking, “How can I have more of that? Not in an addictive or obsessive way or I’m not being grateful or present for what I’m having, but it’s a check-in. It’s like, “Why can’t I experience this more often? Am I not giving myself permission to have that?” It might be as simple as enjoying the times that you’re in the car, cranking up the music, creating great playlists and things like that. If that brings you joy, that’s wonderful. If that’s a fraction of your life, if only 0.5 hour to 1 hour of your day has those feelings, it’s great to examine, “Is that okay with you? Is that enough for you? Out of those 24 hours that you have each day, are you giving yourself enough of that joy? Are you living a life that is in tune and connected and vibrant and radiant?”

That’s what we want for you. We see wellness as a huge element of it. How can you feel your absolute best? How can you live in this high-performance state where you’re feeling aligned with yourself and your life that every moment feels as great as possible? That you have some strategies for the times where the moments are not as great because as we discuss throughout this show, there are plenty of times in life where we do not feel amazing. If we can create these tools to turn to help us, whether it’s music or aromatherapy or entertainment or creative outlets, it’s one of the greatest gifts that you can give yourself and one of the best ways to savor your life.

In this exploration, we encourage you to challenge yourself in the sense of trying something you’ve never done before. Something you haven’t done in years. As an example, I started playing the piano. I’ve been singing for a long time and playing the guitar, but piano scared the hell out of me. I jumped in and started doing it. It hurts my brain to sit down and write songs on a piano because I’m not good at it yet, but have the willingness to try new things. Have the willingness with no result in mind to experience something new and the joy and invigoration and challenge of that can make you feel alive. As Whitney said, “That is such a cornerstone of the wellness journeys.” What makes you feel alive? What challenges you? What brings you joy with no expectation, no outcome in mind, just for the experience of it?

That’s why we’re drawn to wellness is we don’t want you just to be alive. We want you to thrive. Thriving is about feeling as good as possible for as long as possible. Find sustainable ways to love your life even in the low moments. We’re not talking about feeling those highs all the time. When you’re feeling low, can you still the things that bring you joy and see that there is light on the other side of the darkness that you’re facing at that time? Music has always been one of the best ways for me to tap into that. Jason referenced the blog post on, if you are interested in the subject matter, you want to hear us or read about us this topic a little bit more and get some more tips.

You can go to the blog and find helpful tips, tricks and mindsets and all of that, that we’re putting there. We want to give you whatever tools we can provide. We look forward to your feedback as well. We’d love to hear from you. You can send us an email. You can reach out to us on social media. You can comment on the blog. Please tell us what brings you joy, what songs you love, what creative outlets you have, any a-ha moments that you’re experiencing as you’re reading this and reflecting on everything that we’ve said. We would love to hear from you.

We love you. I want to end on one of my favorite Wayne Dyer quotes, “Don’t die with your song still inside of you, with the music still inside of you.” Whatever that means to you, take that with you. Let the song of your heart sing and go forth and let the child play. We love you. See you soon for another show.


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